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    Re: A couple of random observations....

    No Burrhead, nobody is pretending that all is well and fine. It's pretty obvious what the problems was, but sitting there downing them on the main board is pretty much worthless. Question for you Burrhead, how did Ralph treat wins and losses? When did the players get chewed more, after a win, or after a loss? I'll answer that for you, he said they needed a pat on the back after a loss, not a kick in the butt. They feel bad enough then. It's after a win that you're critical and find the things they need to improve on. It's called keeping an even keel, not too high, not too low. If you don't agree, go ask Ralph himself, ask Bill Castle, ask Rick, ask any of them. Ironlung is right, the biggest problem has been offensive line the last few weeks. About everybody knows that, and if you want to discuss it over here, in an adult manner, that's fine. If you want to go on there and post where you know that several players read it, then try to do so in a more 'positive way'. When we win, I almost always mention something that we need to work on. When we lose, I tend to not say much. Not that I don't have stuff to say, but I'm trying to avoid being critical of kids. You should try that sometime. I'm sure that you've sat around and talked with coaches, former coaches or what not and when they are talking to you, they may say more of what their opinions are. "So and so is sorry", "So and So is horrible", but do they go where the players are and say that? That's the difference and something you can't seem to grasp.
    What we've got here is failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach, so you get what we had here last week which is the way he wants it. Well, he gets it.

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    Re: A couple of random observations....

    Sometimes it takes a little negativity for someone to stand up and say, gosh we are playing terrible. Never lost a game with coach Cummins for lack of effort or emotion. I know times are different, and please don't tell me what I can and can't grasp. Be positve when there is something to be positive about, but try to correct the bad things. Freddy, right now I'm worried that Wise will beat us. We're looking at 4-6.

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    Re: A couple of random observations....

    I don't really agree with sugar coating things either. I don't think anyone is really throwing players under the bus or pointing at any 1,2, or 3 people in particular either. If the team plays like dogshit, like they have the last couple of weeks, there's no reason not to say so. If burrhead or anyone else saying so on a message board is the first person to let them in on that fact and it's something they couldn't figure out for themselves, they need to find a new sport to play. The teams I played on had about half the talent that what Clintwood's team has now. We played against teams that were 5 times what they're playing today. We never had an offensive outing as pathetic as Clintwood has had the last two weeks.
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    Re: A couple of random observations....

    I agree with Lung, I have a feeling that Burrhead probably isnt the first person to tell them they are playing like poop either. If they can make it through two-a-days and things like that, they can stand a little ridicule from the fans.

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    Re: A couple of random observations....

    The question is, are they playing that bad or are they just not good? What changed between last year and this year? I thought they had almost everyone back?

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    Re: A couple of random observations....

    They lost 1 linemen and that's it. They played great the first two games. I know that the competition has been better the last two weeks, but you can see it's partly an effort problem, maybe a focus problem, and missing Robinson two weeks ago and him maybe not being at 100% still on Friday had something to do with it. I think they'll play much better this Friday night. If they don't it could be the start of a long slide.
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    Re: A couple of random observations....

    Call me crazy but if they have last years form for friday night, they can win. PV has to be somewhat beat up, that was a physical game the other night. PV did look good but Burton didnt play their best game by any stretch of the imagination. As I expect Clintwood to give Burton a good game, I expect them to give PV a good game.....unless they have regressed to the point of not being able to turn it around.

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    Re: A couple of random observations....

    LPD Football is def not what it used to be, I really expect PV and JIB to lose in the state title game. Neither team has enough lineman to matchup with any team on the other end of the state, I'd say Franklin over JIB and Goochland over PV. JIB obviously has a much easier road, I'd be totally shocked if the Raiders didn't make it again, PV has to get through a very tough Lebanon team and Giles/GW. What amazed me more than anything about the PV/JIB game was the amount of penetration PV could get on JIB, I really didn't expect to see that. JIB may be in for another Riverheads situation up state, just pound it out on them, if PV gets there there getting run off the field, I see no way they can stop Goochland or Gretna.
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    Re: A couple of random observations....

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mega</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The question is, are they playing that bad or are they just not good? What changed between last year and this year? I thought they had almost everyone back? </div></div>

    The O-Line is having some problems IMHO they were just out maned vs Vol but vs Leb I just do not have an answer they pulled one guy and plugged in a new stater and he looked just as bad as the 1st starter.

    It is my opinion that Clintwood may have to go into more of a straight power offence and hit Iso's and Dives hard (The Line seems to block that well and Clintwood moved the ball vs Leb when they did just that) the problem vs Leb was mainly on the counters and the Play action where a 2nd and 4 or 5 would turn into a 3rd and 12

    On D call me crazy but I think Clintwood played pretty well until the 4th qtr Lebanon's entire offence was 2 long plays and the D game the O several chances in the 3rd but if you keep giving a team with that talent chances they will make you pay for it.

    I am not sure how Clintwood will react after this loss the big thing to remember is that last season Clintwood started the year 2-2 as well and IMHO the 2 teams they have lost to this year are better than the 2 that they lost to last season.

    I think PV presents some match up problem for Clintwood but Clintwood presents some problems for PV as well I look for this to be a pretty dang good game between 2 very good 2-2 teams

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    Re: A couple of random observations....

    Not to take away from this thread, but I have a random observation. Grossman sucks. And why in the hell does the Giants own us (Skins)? We could be 3-0 right now. [censored] Giants. Sorry, Im done now. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]

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